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For a man to declare himself uninterested in this subject would be to proclaim himself idiotic -- thoughtless. If the ordinary affairs of this present life, food, raiment, finance, politics, etc., which concern us but for a few years, are deemed worthy of thought, study, how much more concern should we have in respect to the eternal future of ourselves and families and mankind in general?

Pope John Paul ll explicitly excluded such an idea with regard to Purgatory, stating that "the term does not indicate a place, but a condition of existence".
 

Purgatory is what the Roman Catholic Church  calls "the final purification of the elect" by which, it believes, "all who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy and happiness of heaven."


The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.
Because of the communion of saints, the faithful who are still pilgrims on earth are able to help the souls in purgatory by offering prayers in suffrage for them, especially the Eucharistic sacrifice.


From the beginning the Church has honoured the memory of the dead and offered prayers in suffrage for them, above all the Eucharistic sacrifice, so that, thus purified, they may attain the beatific vision of God.

Grave Sin deprives us of communion with God and therefore makes us incapable of eternal life, the privation of which is called the "eternal punishment" of sin.
 
On the other hand every sin, even venial, entails an unhealthy attachment to creatures, which must be purified either here on earth, or after death in the state called Purgatory. This purification frees one from what is called the "temporal punishment" of sin.
 
These two punishments must not be conceived of as a kind of vengeance inflicted by God from without, but as following from the very nature of sin.
 
A conversion which proceeds from a fervent charity can attain the complete purification of the sinner in such a way that no punishment would remain. … While patiently bearing sufferings and trials of all kinds and, when the day comes, serenely facing death, the Christian must strive to accept this temporal punishment of sin as a grace.

In Purgatory"the pain will be more intolerable than any one can suffer in this life."
 As per Saint Augustine "the fire will be worse than anything a human being can suffer in this life"

"What we pray for" includes the following: "that we be not sentenced to endure the fire of purgatory, from which we piously and devoutly implore that others may be liberated."











Depiction of a soul being freed from purgatory

Purgatory's role               
Sin is a commonplace occurrence in human beings, not limited only to particularly "bad" people-- rather all persons, commit sins. Ideally sins are forgiven through the sacrament of Penance, but the sinful nature of human beings makes it probable that even fundamentally good human beings are likely to die having sins which have not yet been absolved.

Persons with sins that have not been absolved are not immediately eligible for heaven, due to their state of sin. But if the person has not committed any unabsolved mortal sins, they will not be destined for hell either. Therefore, the person is judged to be in some intermediate state-- neither so sinful as to go to hell, nor sufficiently free of sin to enter heaven - and enters into Purgatory-- a place or state of purification. Sins are purged from the soul in Purgatory, so that the soul may become free of sin. Once this purification is complete, the soul, now free from sins, may enter Heaven.







 

Our Lady of Mount Carmel with angels and souls in Purgatory. Baroque sculpture from (Spain)

The period of confinement here may be centuries or thousands of years, according to the deserts of the individual and the alleviations granted.... 
Nearly all go to purgatory, because, notwithstanding the good offices of the church, the holy water, confessions, masses, holy candles, and consecrated burying ground, nevertheless, not having attained to saintship of character, they would be excluded from heaven until the distressing experiences of purgatory would prepare their hearts for heaven.

                                                                   

How Long the Souls Remain in Purgatory?

Comment - According to the Bible, there is no such state termed "purgatory",  this is one of the biggest lies thought by the Catholic Church, a big farce. If there exists a place like that please show a scripture in the Bible.

-Lennon Vaz

Answer:- The inspired writers of the Old Testament had a great perception of the majesty, the awful holiness of God. They knew that nothing defiled can stand before him. Yet we know from Paul (1 Cor. 13:12) that in heaven the soul has a vision of God, sees him face to face. That is metaphorical language (a soul has no eyes, God no face), yet it conveys awesome truth. It means the soul will know God directly.

How could that be? When we see someone on this earth, we take into our eyes and brain an image of him. That works well enough, for although any image is finite or limited, so is the person doing the imaging. But what image could make God known? None, of course. So the soul must know God without an image. This can be only if God directly joins himself to that soul, to do what an image would do in seeing others.

God will not join himself to anything defiled, yet that is precisely what Luther thought, what they think who claim infallible salvation. Luther claimed (in Epistle 501,written to Melanchthon), "Even if you sin greatly, believe more greatly." The man may be (and really is) total corruption, according to Luther, but God does not mind that. The Holy Spirit could even dwell within total corruption, said Luther wrongly.

He thought justification was not a real cleansing--it was just that the merits of Christ, like a white cloak, would be thrown over the sins of the sinner. God would not look under the cloak, but the sinner would remain totally corrupt.

All this is impossible (nothing unclean shall enter heaven, says Revelation 20:27), so there must be some means of purgation after death, if the soul is not fully pure. There must be a purgatory.

Logically,if one follows out Luther's fancy, a man who goes out and kills several others and then turns the gun on himself should go at once to be joined to the infinite purity of God! Luther wrote, "Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly....No sin will separate us from the Lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day."

Judas Maccabeus was quite right in having sacrifices offered in the Temple for the souls of those fallen in battle who had sinned by wearing amulets (2 Mac. 12:42-46). But, our Protestant friends will object, that book is not in the Bible! To which we reply: A prominent Baptist professor, Gerald Burney Smith, in 1929 surveyed every means he could think of to determine which books are inspired and which are not. He found no possible way unless there would be a divinely-protected teaching authority to decide. Of course, he denied there was such an authority. He reported that Luther said that, if a book strongly preaches justification by faith, the book is inspired. But that cannot be true. Luther never proved that was the criterion, and, further, he could write such a book himself (and so could I), and it would not be inspired. Besides, many books of the Bible do not preach justification by faith at all, yet they are inspired.

Catholics have the sort of teaching authority Burney lacked. It is the Catholic Church, as we find from a study of apologetics. That teaching authority has determined that the Books of Maccabees are inspired. (Really, no Protestant should quote Scripture at all,  for he has no means of determining which books are inspired --unless, of course, he accepts the authority of the Catholic Church!)

Comment -In God's love I would tell you, no where in His word is the idea of purgatory mentioned. That is because Jesus died once for all, His death on that cross was all that was needed for payment for our sins. He said as he died "It is finished". What did He tell the repentant thief beside Him? He gave up His spirit when the sacrifice was completed. He is  the sinless Lamb of God, for us all. All we need to do is to believe & accept His free gift. Check it out, read your Bible, what does it tell you? Forgive me if I have hurt anyone. -
V.R. Erickson


 Answer:- The Catholic Church teaches that purgatory is a temporary place of purification where those who have died undergo a period of expiation to remove all stain of mortal sin duly forgiven or all stain of unrepentant venial sin. Souls are sent to purgatory as "nothing unclean" (Rev. 21, 27) can enter heaven. All souls that are sent to purgatory are destined to ultimately enter heaven once all stain of sin has been removed by its purifying fires. Once the last soul leaves purgatory at the General Resurrection and Judgment, it will be extinguished and only heaven and hell will remain.

For Catholics the strongest argument for the existence of purgatory is the constant and universal writings of the early Church Fathers, the ancient liturgies of the East and West, the numerous inscriptions on the walls of the Catacombs, and in the pronouncements of the Councils of Florence (1438-45) and Trent (1545-63).

2 Macc. 12, 43-46 shows that the Jews in the Old Testament certainly believed in a middle state where the dead could profit from the sacrifices and prayers of the living:

"And making a gathering, (Judas Maccabeus) sent twelve thousand drachms of silver to Jerusalem for sacrifice to be offered for the sins of the dead...It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins" (Douai).

Protestants deny the canonicity of the Maccabean books, nevertheless, their historical value cannot be denied, and even Jewish prayer books today contain such prayers. If the doctrine of purgatory had been invented by the Jews, undoubtedly, it would have been condemned by Jesus Christ, as He condemned them for a long list of changes in doctrine and discipline in St. Matt. 23.

On the contrary, the doctrine of purgatory is actually implied in the Gospels: "I tell you, you will never get out until you have paid the very last penny" (St. Luke 12, 59); "Whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world nor in the World to come" (St. Matt. 12, 32 [Douai]). According to Pope St. Gregory the Great the words of Christ in St. Matthew infer that sins can be forgiven in the next life. Now this cannot be done in heaven or hell, but only in another state which the Church calls purgatory.

Further, St. Paul writing his first letter to the Corinthians (3, 13-15) says that "each man's work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If any man's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire." His soul will be saved, but only after spending time in the purifying flames of purgatory.

Christ’s death on the Cross sufficed to redeem humanity and free us from the eternal damnation of hell, but it did not free us from the need to undergo temporal punishments for sin. For example, humanity is still subject to the temporal punishments of labor, pain, sickness and death even though we have now been redeemed. St. Paul makes this point clear when writing to the Colossians: "I am now rejoicing in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am completing what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church" (1, 24).

The essential reason why Protestants reject the doctrine of purgatory is due to their belief in the un-Scriptural doctrines of total depravity and non-imputation of sin concocted by Luther and Calvin. They taught that the sin of Adam so damaged humanity that we were now nothing more than wild beasts whose every actions, no matter how good, were sinful. Since we are incapable of good actions there is nothing we can do to remit our temporal punishments either for ourselves or for anyone else. Only Christ is therefore capable of achieving this and this He did on the Cross. Further, as our souls are already totally depraved any additional sin on our part cannot leave a "stain of sin" which needs to be purified in purgatory. By accepting Christ as our "personal Lord and Savior" God "covers up" our sinful natures, in this way making us fit to enter the Kingdom of heaven.

Finally, the Bible makes it clear that in the past there has existed more than just the two places of heaven and hell in the next world. St. Peter tells us (1 Pet. 3, 19) that after His death Jesus preached His redemption "to the spirits in prison." Therefore, the concept of another temporary, intermediate place such as purgatory is not totally out of the question.

The Fathers:

Tertullian, The Soul (Inter 208-212 A.D.):

"In short, if we understand that prison of which the Gospel speaks to be Hades, and if we interpret the last farthing to be the light offense which is to be expiated there before the resurrection, no one will doubt that the soul undergoes some punishments in Hades, without prejudice to the fullness of the resurrection, after which recompense will be made through the flesh also."

Tertullian, Monogamy (Post 213 A.D.):

"A woman, after the death of her husband, is bound not less firmly but even more so, not to marry another husband...Indeed, she prays for his soul and asks that he may, while waiting, find rest; and that he may share in the first resurrection. And each year, on the anniversary of his death, she offers the sacrifice."

St. Cyprian of Carthage, Letter to His Clergy and to All His People (250 A.D.):

"Lawrence and Ignatius, though they fought betimes in worldly camps, were true and spiritual soldiers of God; and while they laid the Devil on his back with their confession of Christ, they merited the palms and crowns of the Lord by their illustrious passion. We always offer sacrifices for them, as you will recall, as often as we celebrate the passions of the martyrs by commemorating their anniversary day."

St. Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lectures (C. 350 A.D.):

"Then we make mention also of those who have already fallen asleep: first, the patriarchs, prophets, Apostles, and martyrs, that through their prayers and supplications God would receive our petition; next, we make mention also of the holy fathers and bishops who have already fallen asleep, and, to put it simply, of all among us who have already fallen asleep; for we believe that it will be of very great benefit to the souls of those for whom the petition is carried up, while this holy and most solemn Sacrifice is laid out."

St. Gregory of Nyssa, Sermon on the Dead (383 A.D.):

"After his departure out of the body, he gains knowledge of the difference between virtue and vice, and finds that he is not able to partake of divinity until he has been purged of the filthy contagion in his soul by the purifying fire."

St. Augustine of Hippo, The City of God Against the Pagans (Inter 413 - 426 A.D.):

"Temporal punishments are suffered by some in this life only, by some after death, by some both here and hereafter; but all of them before that last and strictest judgment."

St. Augustine of Hippo, Confessions Bk. IX Ch. II (400 A.D.):

St. Augustine’s mother, St. Monica, on her death-bed said to him: "This one request I make of you, that, wherever you be, you remember me at the Lord’s altar."

Catechism of the Council of Trent (1566):

Prayers for the dead, that they may be liberated from the fire of purgatory, are derived from Apostolic teaching...

(The Eucharist)..its benefits extend not only to the celebrant and communicant, but to all the faithful, whether living with us on earth, or already numbered with those who are dead in the Lord, but whose sins have not yet been fully expiated. For, according to the most authentic Apostolic tradition, it is not less available when offered for them, than when offered for the sins of the living, their punishments, satisfactions, calamities and difficulties of every sort.

Catechism of the Catholic Church (1992):

No. 1030: All who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven.

No. 1031: The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned. The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:

As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that, before the Final Judgment, there is a purifying fire. He who is truth says that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this age nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come (St. Gregory the Great,Dial. 4, 39: PL 77, 396)

No. 1032: This teaching is also based on the practice of prayer for the dead, already mentioned in Sacred Scripture: "Therefore [Judas Maccabeus] made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin" (2 Maccabees 12, 46). From the beginning the Church has honored the memory of the dead and offered prayers in suffrage for them, above all the Eucharistic sacrifice, so that, thus purified, they may attain the beatific vision of God. The Church also commends almsgiving, indulgences, and works of penance undertaken on behalf of the dead:

Let us help and commemorate them. If Job’s sons were purified by their father’s sacrifice, why should we doubt that our offerings for the dead bring them some consolation? Let us not hesitate to help those who have died and to offer our prayers for them (St. John Chrysostom,Hom. in 1 Cor. 41, 5: PG 61, 361).




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In God's love I would tell you, no where in His word is the idea of purgatory mentioned. That is because Jesus died once for all, His death on that cross was all that was needed for payment for our sins. He said as he died "It is finished". What did He tell the repentant thief beside Him? He gave up His spirit when the sacrifice was completed. He is the sinless Lamb of God, for us all. All we need to do is to believe & accept His free gift. Check it out, read your Bible, what does it tell you? Forgive me if I have hurt anyone. - V.R. Erickson
 
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No purgatory
by Lennon Vaz on 12th Jul, 2008
According to the Bible,there is no such state termed "purgatory", this is one of the biggest lies thought by the Catholic Church, a big farce. If there exists a place like that please show a scripture in the Bible.
 
Lennon Vaz's query
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Roman Catholic theology the place where those who have died in a state of grace undergo limited torment to expiate their sins
 
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Lennon!! in the bible there is no word such as Catholic or Protestant. so in that case you should be neither catholic nor protestant. so you are in a no man's land!!! that no man's land is exactly what is called Purgatory... i hope that you don't want to remain there forever

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purgatory
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a family in the beginning is husband and wife, then is the child the middle person first instance, second a man /woman go to church on Sunday after mass he goes to the bar etc, he cant go to hell because he is going to church, so purgatory is for him.
 
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Purification of purgatory
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I wholeheartedly agree on purgatory. The scripture in St. Paul Chap 3 :13-15 states that every man's work will be made manifest to him through fire. If a man's work is burned up, he will suffer loss though he himself will be saved, but only through fire. Hence the purifying fire of purgatory. Sure there is hell fire but being saved through the fire of purgatory IS NOT the same as the eternal damnation fires of hell. Just my response to V.R. Erickson + Saved by Grace. P.S. if you both should die before I do, I will pray for your soul if indeed you do make it to purgatory.
 
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