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There used to be a saying,
"The fathers have eaten sour grapes,
and the children's teeth are set on edge"

Hello Members of Guardian Angel,

My name is Michelle. Me and my fiancee have been doing Bible studies together since the Lent season of this year. When we read the bible, we also†did read something I found on the computer that relates to the scripture we are reading. Their are so many different sites that offer studies and they all differ in their views, theories and interpretations. Sometimes this is confusing to both of us, and I believe this could be tainting the true meaning of the scriptures.

So my question is, does anyone have any suggestions on studies that dont get away from the truth. I prefer websites that will allow me to print the studies and I may even buy one of the books if it doesnt cost too much. We are currently studying Genesis and the† scriptures on Noah's sons. Speaking of that....

I have another question. My fiancee who is African American got concerned when reading about the curse on Ham's desendents. Since the black race seems to have come from Ham lineage, my fiancee has been wondering if this same curse has fallen on him. If anyone can help us with this, I would appreciate it also.

God Bless everyone and have a good day.

Have a blessed day! And please Pray for us!

Michelle

Quick Question !

Q: Does the phrase "sins of the father" mean that the spiritual or emotional burdens of previous generations, unknown to the recipient, can be passed down to succeeding generations?

A: No one can pass down to others their personal sins. We say that the original sin of Adam and Eve is passed down through the generations, but original sin is not the actual fault of the recipient. Rather, its effect is the privation of grace and the loss of original innocence that our first parents had.

Likewise, one can pass the effects of oneís sins through generations. Letís say that someone is an alcoholic. His original choice to abuse alcohol could have disastrous effects on his family that can last for generations, including influencing his children and grandchildren to abuse alcohol. This is not because they are guilty of their fatherís sin but because dependency on alcohol is the only way they learned to deal with problems. In that way one can say that the sin of the father has been passed down through generations. It is not the actual fault that is passed down but the consequences of the original sinful choice.

Ezekiel 18

The Soul Who Sins Will Die
1 The word of the LORD came to me: 2 "What do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of Israel:
†††††† " 'The fathers eat sour grapes,
†††††† and the children's teeth are set on edge'?

3 "As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, you will no longer quote this proverb in Israel. 4 For every living soul belongs to me, the father as well as the sonóboth alike belong to me. The soul who sins is the one who will die.

5 "Suppose there is a righteous man
†††††† who does what is just and right.

6 He does not eat at the mountain shrines
†††††† or look to the idols of the house of Israel.
†††††† He does not defile his neighbor's wife
†††††† or lie with a woman during her period.

7 He does not oppress anyone,
†††††† but returns what he took in pledge for a loan.
†††††† He does not commit robbery
†††††† but gives his food to the hungry
†††††† and provides clothing for the naked.

8 He does not lend at usury
†††††† or take excessive interest.†
†††††† He withholds his hand from doing wrong
†††††† and judges fairly between man and man.

9 He follows my decrees
†††††† and faithfully keeps my laws.
†††††† That man is righteous;
†††††† he will surely live,
†††††† declares the Sovereign LORD.

10 "Suppose he has a violent son, who sheds blood or does any of these other things† 11 (though the father has done none of them):
†††††† "He eats at the mountain shrines.
†††††† He defiles his neighbor's wife.

12 He oppresses the poor and needy.
†††††† He commits robbery.
†††††† He does not return what he took in pledge.
†††††† He looks to the idols.
†††††† He does detestable things.

13 He lends at usury and takes excessive interest.
††††††Will such a man live? He will not! Because he has done all these detestable things, he will surely be put to death and his blood will be on his own head.

14 "But suppose this son has a son who sees all the sins his father commits, and though he sees them, he does not do such things:

15 "He does not eat at the mountain shrines
†††††† or look to the idols of the house of Israel.
†††††† He does not defile his neighbor's wife.

16 He does not oppress anyone
†††††† or require a pledge for a loan.
†††††† He does not commit robbery
†††††† but gives his food to the hungry
†††††† and provides clothing for the naked.

17 He withholds his hand from sin†
†††††† and takes no usury or excessive interest.
†††††† He keeps my laws and follows my decrees.
††††††He will not die for his father's sin; he will surely live. 18 But his father will die for his own sin, because he practiced extortion, robbed his brother and did what was wrong among his people.

19 "Yet you ask, 'Why does the son not share the guilt of his father?' Since the son has done what is just and right and has been careful to keep all my decrees, he will surely live. 20 The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him.

21 "But if a wicked man turns away from all the sins he has committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die. 22 None of the offenses he has committed will be remembered against him. Because of the righteous things he has done, he will live. 23 Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?

24 "But if a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits sin and does the same detestable things the wicked man does, will he live? None of the righteous things he has done will be remembered. Because of the unfaithfulness he is guilty of and because of the sins he has committed, he will die.

25 "Yet you say, 'The way of the Lord is not just.' Hear, O house of Israel: Is my way unjust? Is it not your ways that are unjust? 26 If a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits sin, he will die for it; because of the sin he has committed he will die. 27 But if a wicked man turns away from the wickedness he has committed and does what is just and right, he will save his life. 28 Because he considers all the offenses he has committed and turns away from them, he will surely live; he will not die. 29 Yet the house of Israel says, 'The way of the Lord is not just.' Are my ways unjust, O house of Israel? Is it not your ways that are unjust?

30 "Therefore, O house of Israel, I will judge you, each one according to his ways, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent! Turn away from all your offenses; then sin will not be your downfall. 31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, O house of Israel? 32 For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!





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