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My name is Joyce and I am a new member. I have a question I have been wondering about for so long. I am divorced and remarried. The Bible says there is only 1 reason for divorce, and if you do get a divorce and remarry you are committing adultery. So Do I need to get a divorce from the second husband to be a true christian? I would really like to know what to do about this because I truly love God and want to be a good christian. Please help & pray!

Joyce

Because of the tender mercy of our God, by which the rising sun will come to us from heaven to shine on those living in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the path of peace. Luke 1:78-79 (New International Version)

 
These past few weeks have been extremely difficult for my friend.  They are faced with a situation that threatens their faith.  A loved one has gone missing and possibly met with foul play.  They are struggling to find understanding in this midst of the storm.  Friends and neighbors alike have reached out to them as a means to offer comfort.  Right now, comfort and peace eludes them.
 
As we sit here waiting, we pray for resolution and understanding but it does not come. Everyone knows that pain and suffering comes to all.  Life and death is an everyday occurrence.  We go before the alter kneeling in prayer, asking that the God of comfort would visit us.  We come asking that God would provide the answer to the question; why must any one suffer this way?
 
As we come together as a family, joining hands and our faith, we realize that everything that happens in life has its own purpose.  We don’t always know or even understand what that purpose may be.  However, we must accept that God knows. 
 
As we say our prayer, one should be reminded that if we ask God for the wisdom to change those things that we can and accept those things that we cannot change, God can and will make it better by and by.  So for now, it will be advisable for our Joyce to continue to take one day at a time, enjoying those special moments and memories that can only come from sharing the love we have for one another.
 
And most of all, trusting that God will make all things right if we surrender to His will.





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Every man is responsible for his own actions.
by Nickson D'mello on 8th Sep, 2008
Every man is responsible for his own actions. What our forefathers did is not us. I feel personally that until you set in the seat of another, its questionable. We each do what we can, so unless you can personally change the path of faith, get over it.
 
Be strong and trust in Him only.
by Adriana on 8th Sep, 2008
Ofcourse we will continue to pray, until we hear from God and know what has taken place.
I'm sure He will reveal this to you when the time is right. Be strong and trust in Him only.
Blessings and love
 
Do not commit adultery is very true whcih goes w/o saying
by SABRINA FIALHO on 8th Sep, 2008
you have lawfully taken divorce from your 1st husband no, by the way what was the coz of divorce, 1st of all one shd not have a divorce, you cd have compromised with your 1st husband. re-marrying is committing adultery that goes w/o saying . now since you are re-married are you happy with your 2nd husband ?? if yes then please dont divorce him coz u will ruin his life also.
 
dicission
by Mascarenhas Caetano Baptista on 8th Sep, 2008
hi Joyce, kindly review once again with the extreme angles of ur mind & if cant use ur mind to all extreme, then m sorry to help o comment on the matter, on what u mentioned in the mail.
God help u to to decide.
rgds
 
divorce
by Cris Antao on 8th Sep, 2008
In Catholic religion in order to remarry again annulment is very important by the church, if you get married without annulment you are committing adultery hence divorce is not as important as annulment.
 
Recognize God's purposes
by James and Jonita on 8th Sep, 2008

Today, many people in the world focus on things like careers or families, seeking power or pleasure. But many fail to recognize God's purposes either in the world or in their personal lives. They don't see that He's behind every trend and event. He calls specific men and women to accomplish His purposes. And, He is ready to exalt and bless those who love & serve Him.

Remember, God has a special destiny for us...
Father, I am Your servant. Use me to change lives. Open the eyes of people in our country. Help them to see Your hand in their lives. Help Joyce to make the right thing in her life. In Jesus' name. Amen. Amen.
 
hi
by rizvon on 8th Sep, 2008
no dont give divorce to your husband or else you will commit sin in the bible it is written that dont commit adultery but if you get someone who will look after your family marry him and be with him forever
 
I myself facing a problem of remarrying
by Anthony on 8th Sep, 2008
I am forwarding this email to my home computer and will reply since this is one interesting email I have received and would like to comment and really get involved in such a topic because I myself facing a problem of remarrying one day although my wife does not want to give me a divorce and has abandon me and living in another country.
 
Well wisher
by Savio Leon on 8th Sep, 2008
Joyce, if your first marriage was annulled by the catholic church, it means that this marriage was invalidated - that is, the church, by virtue of circumstances presented to it, deems that the partners never intended to have a permanent relationship in the sacrament of matrimony in the first place. Therefore, if you are not happily married, then seek God's presence in it and be faithful to each other in all things. Where there is true love, there can be no sin.
 
No need divorce
by Lawrence Dsouza on 8th Sep, 2008
joyce i am not married but i love someone very much. joyce you don't need to divorce coz its your life you have to live to the fullest the first husband was not made for you and if you are not happy with your husband you can never live together so i believe that you ar happy with your second husband and if you are happy with him and he is happy with you this is what is call marriage. happy married life.
 
As a man thinketh so is he....
by Joseph Pereira on 8th Sep, 2008
Why are you always looking for the negative? The bible says this, the bible says that, as a man thinketh so is he.... It is just as easy to see the good in people.

How do you feel about the terrorists? Do you not see the evil that exists?

Following this line of thought, why don't you see the "good" in re-marriage then?

My bet is that the so called "second marriage" won't live long enough... Atleast happily!

Exciting to me, but credible? Wish you good luck Joyce !!!

 
Contact a marriage counsellor
by Janet on 8th Sep, 2008
Dear Joyce,
I feel you should see a good Catholic counsellor and act on his/her advice. Will pray for your situation
God bless you!
 
Joyce....
by Marc Dias on 8th Sep, 2008
Joyce - in keeping with your religious beliefs your personal satisfaction should also be considered. I hope you have made a wise decision to remarry.
I hope that has made you happy and will keep you happy. Go ahead and pray that you will have happiness in whatever you do.
All the best to you. With prayers - Marc
 
Be happy
by Louella on 8th Sep, 2008
Dear Joyce,
I feel you should try and be happy with your 2nd marriage and make it a success. You can please God by being sincere in your second marriage.
 
Administrative Assistant
by Anthony on 8th Sep, 2008
I fully agree with Marc Dias comments given above. You have done the right thing to remarry. God wants all to be happy and if you and your husband are happy then you should not think of adultery and bring guilt feelings which will ruin your happiness. I visited some Fathers and counselors who advised me to marry anyone I like or even I can live with some one if my wife is not giving divorce which I have not done anything since last 10 years. My advice to Joyce is to live life according to the Will of God. Don't hurt anyone and ruin anyone life. If you are happy with the 2nd husband, live happily for ever and never bring any negative thoughts in your mind. Good luck.
 
DEAR CHILD OF GOD, MY SON ANSWERS YOUR PRAYER, HEED TO IT
DEAR CHILD JOYCE,
THANK YOU TO KEEP THE SPIRIT OF GOD ALIVE. IF YOU GOT YOUR FIRST MARRIAGE ANNULED BY THE CHURCH, ALTHOUGH THE CHURCH ANNULLED IT, BUT IF BOTH OF YOU AT THE TIME OF MARRIAGE IN GOOD FAITH AND NO FEAR COMMITTED YOUR SELF TO THE SACRAMENT OF MARRIAGE IN A CATHOLIC CHURCH UNDER CATHOLIC DOCTRINES, THEN THE ANNULLMENT IS HONESTLY NOT VALID, BUT THE CHURCH TO KEEP THE CLERGY HAPPY MAKES THINGS SHORT, EVEN PRIESTS SIN HERE BUT MY ANSWER IS IF YOU MARRIED IN GOOD FAITH, AND YOU DID NOT MARRY IN FEAR (SOME EXAMPLES YOUR FAMILY IS STARVING AND YOU MET A RICH GUY HE GAVE YOU ALL PROMISES YOU ARE NOT HONEST TO GOD AND YOURSELF TO CARRY THE CROSS OF LIFE, YOU MARRY FOR HIS MONEY ETC.. AND THEN THE ANNULLMENT.. NOW IT IS YOUR CONSCIENCE, ASK GOD FOR PLAYING WITH HIS WAYS OF LIFE AND IF YOU DID NOT MARRY AGAIN HE WIL BLESS YOU MORE OBVIOUSLY, BUT IF YOU DID MARRY YOU ARE NOT CARRYING A CROSS FOR THE ILL DOINGS YOU DID, BETTER PAY FOR YOUR SINS WITH CHRIST, THEN BRING YOUR SELF SHAMEFULL TO HIM.
BY GETTING MARRYING AGAIN IT IS THE WORST THING YOU DID HONESTLY, AND YOU HAVE ALSO PULLED ANOTHER FAMILY'S SON WITH YOUR LUST FOR SIN. MY CHILD I AM COMMUNICATING WITH YOU VIA STEVE ROBERTSON EARLIER KNOWN HAS ALBAN JOHN LEWIS, A 10TH CHILD TO THE FAMILY OF 12 FROM MANGALORE- AND BOMBAY-FORT. HE WAS RAISED IN HOLY NAME CATHEDRAL-WOODHOUSE-BOMBAY AND LAST 22 YEARS WORKING IN SCANDINAVIA BRINGING 1000S OF PROSTITIUTES IN EUROPE OFF THE STREET WITH WORDS OF LIFE BY GOD INFESTED IN HIM. HE HAS TILL THIS DATE NOT LOOKED AT A WOMAN WITH LUST, NOR KISSED ONE NOR HELD ONE HE LIVES A SINCERE PIOUS LIFE AND I HAVE CHOSEN HEM TODAY TO WRITE TO YOU FORM NEW ZEALAND. HE HAS DONATED TO DON BOSCO-MATUNGA TONNES FOR THE YOUNG AND WORTHY. AFTER READING THIS STOP WITH YOUR SINS YOU CAN LIVE WITH THAT MAN OR ANY MAN BUT IN CELERBRACY AND IF YOU GOT KIDS RAISE THEM TOO IN CLERABRACY. I LIVE AND LIVED WITH THE WORLDS MOST BEAUTIFUL GIRLS FROM 12 TO 30 OF AGE BRINGING THEM TO LIFE, WITHOUT ME THEY WOULD NEVER HAD WHAT THEY GOT TODAY. I HAVE NOT TOUCHED ANY ALTHOUGH THOUSANDS OF THEM MADE VARIOUS ATTEMPTS. GOD IS LOVE AND HIS LOVE IS DIVINE WITH HIM WE NEVER DIE BUT LIVE FOR EVER. YOUR LIFE ON THIS EARTH IS A GIFT OF GOD TO YOU, WHAT YOU DO WITH YOUR LIFE IS YOUR GIFT TO HIM. SAY YOUR ACT OF CONTRICTION AND ROSARY DAILY IF YOU CAN.
 
we only have one life
by petes on 9th Sep, 2008
dear, god has given us only one life , forget what every one says ,each one has to carry his own cross and pain and no one to share, so why make it sad by considering what is gone , just be happy with what you have and share with him what you would have given to god, i believe every person is a division of good and bad , so do not judge ,,, live by the day ,,,, by the way you have only remarried once ,,, i have gone through it twice for no fault of mine but i never feel bay only lonely at times as i cannot share my joys and pain with some one,,,, so what are you cribbing about...
live life for today and the future ..... forget the past ,,,
 
God Loves You

How easy it is for everyone to comment on your second marriage and judge.
Ask your self all of you. Did not God create all of us in 'His image and likeness' And does not the bible say that all that God created is Good and perfect.
So if all of you think that Joyce has fallen short then God must not be perfect as We are all not perfect. At least that is everyone's perception.
But how can this be? Either what we think or are told by our so called Religion is true or God is, and what God has created has to be perfect and good as His image and likeness.
Ask yourselves another question - Can any of you who have children or brothers, sisters, damn them to hell if they have broken all the laws of done something wrong.
You would correct them or tell them the right thing to do.
Do you then think that God who is our Father and creator will damn us to death?
Do you relate yourself as your body or your spirit?
Did not God create all from thought? If so we are all in the mind of God and if we are then we must all be one.
Examine you mind, watch your thoughts each of you and you will see that all you are doing is carrying the past into the present, but not enjoying the present moment (PRE-SENT from GOD). Religion always will cause separation, you / me, us / them. Everyone is special and unique to God and in Him there can only be Love. How can God hate anyone. What has been taught by tradition and what we are led to believe is all false.
God is Love and in Him there can be no darkness.
God's Spirit dwells in everyone of us and as we see others we see ourselves.
All I can say Joyce, is love what you have, life is God's gift to you. You are but a traveler on a journey and you will return home to our Father when your time has come
Praise God our Father and Christ our Lord who lives and reigns in union with the Holy Spirit

God Bless you !
 
Divorce
by M. Noronha on 9th Sep, 2008
Dear Joyce,
The reasons for your divorce are not known. Could be a divorce obtained from the courts of law and not the church. I am not sure. However, annulment from the church is a must. Please consult your Parish Priest on future course of action. It will be unfair on my part to imagine the reasons for your divorce and advice you. May God be with you in your endeavour.
 
the greatest gift called life
by A.Dacosta Socrates on 9th Sep, 2008
dear joyce,
In love and sharing happiness we find God. And if your conscience is clear at this stage of your life and in choice, then you are with him and he is happy to have you with him. So live up the sunshine and be grateful of the greatest gift called 'life'. The almighty has his purpose for us all and he loves us all no matter what.
A big God bless!
 
i m praying for u
by Lidi on 9th Sep, 2008
Joycee... i m not married and i dont know wat to tell u about all this things... but i can only pray for u that is wat i can do... may god bless u and give u courage. ...
 
Till death do us part....
by Leslie R DSouza on 9th Sep, 2008
Dear Joyce
When you got married you did take your vows in front of the Altar and when you agreed to those sacred vows you as well as your 1st Husband agreed to that bond , but you both have come to the conclusion that what the Good Lord has put together you both have agreed to get it over with and get divorced. Now I do hope that you have got your 1st marriage annulled by the Church as if you do not get this than definitely YES you are committing Adultery, and since you say that you LOVE the good Lord, than get it done rather than living in SIN.
god bless you.
 
LIVE AND LET LIVE !
by Kiran on 9th Sep, 2008
Dear Joyce, Remember one thing all that happens happens for good. And with your below matter, please follow the statement “LIVE AND LET LIVE, for whatever time you are here on this earth, please do not hurt anyone, as long as you follow your conscious and do the right thing, you are on the right path
 
Do not worry, God is great
by BlackBerry on 9th Sep, 2008
Hi, Do not worry, God is great! If you have received annulment from the church, then your 1st marriage is void.
Best of luck
 
God understands.
by Margarete Dsouza. on 9th Sep, 2008
Darling dont worry as times have changed infact God too will understand ur problem as he does for each one of us. Just be happy with ur second marriage as God wants u to be a happy child as u are a Blessed Christian in His name.
 
2nd marriage
by Mali Alin Ganguly on 9th Sep, 2008
Hi Joyce
First let me congratulate you and your 2nd husband. Marriage is full of adjustment nothing comes free in this world. Now find what went not accordingly to your choice in your 1st marriage, and rectify with your wrong doing and compromise and adjustment to a limit is the main ingredient in married life. Myself don't think or believe you have committed any Adultery, YES you could have committed Adultery if not married the 2nd time, and live with a man without getting married, don't think you have committed any Adultery, think positively towards life, other wise if you think that you have committed any sin, then the sin will follow you everywhere you go, this will not be good for you at this junctions of life where you are starting a fresh life, forgetting you past and look at the brighter side of sunshine in life. "EVERY SAINT HAS A PAST : EVERY SINNER HAS A FUTURE"
 
U r truly a daughter of God
by Carl Fernandes on 9th Sep, 2008
Only if he has been unfaithful to you can u u divorce him other wise u r walking the correct path.
 
Joyce
by Mary and Kirit on 9th Sep, 2008
Hi, According to the Word Of God in Mth.19: 3-6.
Seek His help and Jesus will give you all the strength, grace, courage to empower you to face the challenges in your life, for He has made a blood covnent with you and He loves you.
With best wishes and prayer from Mary and Kirit.
 
God will take care of you
by Betty Dsouza on 9th Sep, 2008
If you are happy the way you have accepted your second marriage then its ok. BUT I feel you should have not divorced in the first part unless if its not bearable, we all have our share of multiple problems. I hope in case you have kids they should not be affected with your second marriage.
Good luck to you.
 
Divorce
by Lily D'Silva on 9th Sep, 2008
Being catholic, the Sacrament of Matrimony is not a toy which can be used and disposed off. When we marry, God has tied both husband and wife to be one and no one else can brake it unless adultery. Please, go to a Priest in the church and confess to him all that has gone wrong with you and with your husband and seek his advise. To be a good catholic, we need to be a good follower of Christ. May God bless you.
 
divorce
by Reuben Carron on 9th Sep, 2008
Hi joyce, If you had a good reason for your first divorce , and that first instance set you free, and you decided to marry again the second time, god is for the sinners , and the righteous...
 
trust god our father
by albert on 9th Sep, 2008
dear joyce, only pray to God our Father, He know what is good and what is bad
 
Praise the Lord!
by Jacinta Menezes on 9th Sep, 2008
Dear Joyce, Praise the Lord, just a question, what was the reason for your divorce? Regards
 
Vows
by Ashok Lobo on 9th Sep, 2008
Dear Joyce, If you go through your wedding vows 1st or 2nd and if they were Catholic... it says for better or for worse, in sickness or in health till death do us part... Now I am sure whether it was 1st Marriage or 2nd Marriage you have uttered it and stand by oath to be committed to it. The very fact you have decided to divorce needs to be understood... whether the church has agreed to anull the marriage or whether it was a court divorce do write to me on with Joyce Divorce.. solutions I will be able to address it on a personal basis. However being lesser or not a Christian doesn't arise because though you may see the 2nd Marriage as adulterous its because you may carry guilt... now the fact that Jesus has said in one of his parables on the Adulterous Woman... let the one who has never sinned be the first one to cast a stone.... so if you feel that divorcing the second to marry the first again will resolve problems... on Christianity then I think you need to realise being Christian is not a religion but a WAY OF LIFE.
Regards.
 
PRAYER -Ask Help from GOD
by Veronica on 9th Sep, 2008
GOD Bless you, May our GOD the father enlighten your mind, What i do is to pray you. Just ask Help from GOD. And I'll pray for you, GOD Bless
 
Keep Smiling Always.
by Jacinta on 9th Sep, 2008
The happiest people in the world are not those who have no problems,
but those who learn to live with things that are less than perfect.
Keep Smiling Always. Because, Every child comes with the message that God is not yet discouraged of man.
 
thank you for sharing
by Debbie M on 9th Sep, 2008
Thanks...learning from your situation, thank you for sharing and reminding all of us how to be when we are in this state ...
This site has always brighten my day !
We will stay focus on being a child of God... We do our best, God will do the rest!!! Love you, Sister in Christ!
 
Be blessed and have a wonderful life.
by Ruby and Jebby on 9th Sep, 2008
It was very nice of you to share ur feelings here, you just don't no by reading a few lines about people what have been thru, so its always best to say he or she is a child of God. But we all assume sometimes, and be so far the truth, But to be the Glory, be blessed and have a wonderful life. Much Love.
 
Invoke the names of Jesus and Mary
by Stephen on 9th Sep, 2008
"When an evil thought is presented to the mind, we must immediately endeavor to turn our thoughts to God, or to something which is indifferent. But the best rule is, instantly to invoke the names of Jesus and Mary, and to continue to invoke them until the temptation ceases." St. Alphonsus Liguori
 
Faith counts and not religion.
by Sebastian D'Souza on 9th Sep, 2008
Dear Joyce, I have gone through your letter. You are catholic and not a christian. Let me make it clear, please don't misunderstand me nor get hurt. Christians are the one who believe in the word of God and obey the word of God. ( Some) Catholics believe the word of God but do not obey the word. And that's why they are known as nominal Christians. Now let me make it more clear. You were catholic when you got married first time. And you were catholic when you divorced your first husband. Subsequently when you got married second time still you were catholic. Both the times you got married in the catholic church and was officiated by the priest both times. So where is the question of adultery? While divorcing first time you did not look into the scripture. If you had, you would have come to know that the scripture does allow to divorce except one reason that is adultery. Anyway you took divorce and got married again as a catholic. Catholic church allowed you to get married. That time also you did not look into the scripture. So where and why the question of adultery comes now? Why I said earlier that Catholics don't follow the scripture is for this reason. So my dear child, you are living as a catholic live, as a catholic and don't think all of a sudden to follow the scripture(bible), and make your life miserable. Repent for your past mistakes and ask God to forgive you and without carrying the guilt of adultery try to be happy with you present husband. To live with guilt is sin. That's why I said ask God to forgive so that guilt will go out of your mind and you will have peace. Your present husband will see the change and will love you more. And if he knows what you are going through, ask him to forgive you and he will be too willing to do it. Now the question of following the scripture, if you want to,then I would advise you to read John's gospel chapter 3 verses 1 to 7 and do it first. Where it is written to be "born again". New life will start from there. Start following the scripture from there.God will definitely help you. Don't try to take one piece of scripture from the bible and follow. By doing that only you will become unhappy. So don't do that. Start reading the bible and be born again. Rest leave it to God, trust God, trust Jesus to come into your life and help you to be good and faithful wife. May God bless you. God wants everyone to read his word and come to the knowledge of his son, so that his son, Jesus Christ may give them eternal life. God wants everyone to repent and accept his son Jesus Christ as their Saviour and get saved. Hallelujah.
 
God saved you through faith
by Christiane on 9th Sep, 2008
God saved you through faith as an act of kindness. You had nothing to do with it. Being saved is a gift from God.
I'm asking God to give you a gift from the wealth of his glory. I pray that he would give you inner strength and power through his Spirit
 
Only Prayer from me no advice
by Sebastiana on 9th Sep, 2008
Thank you for writing in.
I can only say that , all I can do for you is keep you in prayer so that God guides u all along the way n help you to do what is right.
 
A second marriage has no harm!
by Aussie Mercedes on 10th Sep, 2008
our Jesus ia a god of mercy and compassion. we have remission of our sins through faith in his blood shed on the cross. Keep the second marriage and don't dishonour it. in the old testament, the spouses had several partners. nowhere does it say one should have one husband or wife. stop procrastinating and go get a life. God says, your sins have been forgiven. bye!
 
Pray a miracle !
by Suzanna on 10th Sep, 2008
Lord, help Joyce in the non-stop world to take time and review herself. Bring to her mind all those areas You want to open to your working in her. Lift up her valleys, bring down her hills and make straight her rough paths. I ask this in Jesus' Name, Amen.
 
Joyce
by Mrs Lourdes D'Costa on 10th Sep, 2008
If you have got your first marriage annulled by the Catholic Church, you are on the right path with your 2nd marriage. Be happy with your present husband and share each other’s joy and sorrows. Seek the face of our Lord when your heart is troubled and you feel low and ask Jesus to be your guiding force. I will keep praying for you, be strong, he is there to take care of you in whatever circumstances you are in.
 
2nd marriage
by Sachin Joshi on 10th Sep, 2008
Dear Joyce, What is the use now of getting divorced for the second time? ( If you were knowing the Bible you would have never married 2nd time.)
You have said that you have remarried you have already committed adultery. So I think continue with your married life and mean while pray more to God. Also you cannot run away from the sins committed by whatever reason.
 
Carry on Joyce
by Greoge Rods on 10th Sep, 2008
& That's Life ! ! !
 
all the best
by ignatius on 10th Sep, 2008
forget all ur past. give ur best to the present hubby.
I'm sure ull hv dn evrytng that GOD wants
 
Praise God for all the Godness he has bestowed
by Vincy Coelho on 11th Sep, 2008
Hi Joyce
Well i dont know much about the bible, but i have true faith in God and believe that if you are happy with your second husband and both are living happily do not take the step for divorce. 1st case if you have taken a divorce legally and under church rules and regulations and you have found that your ex-husband wasn't good that you are not wrong. If you still feel that you did a mistake, ask for God forgiveness and mercy and do a good counseling.
All the Best Wishes God will be with you always if you accept his Ways and not our Ways
 
To be a true Christian
by Veriena Pinheiro on 11th Sep, 2008
If u r a true Christian and u want to love God. U have to love ur husband who is in the form of God in front of u. No one is perfect in this world. God gives us a spouse to love him n bring him to Lord. But instead u keep divorcing n keep marrying n ask to help u. God loves u and please read 1Corianthans 13:4-7 and u will understand what is love.
 
Renew Your Spirit
by Jerome franklin saldanha on 11th Sep, 2008
Untill the time, God Chose a women, you were allowed to marry 5 times or even have 5 wives, but from the time Mother Mary was chosen, one becomes an adulterer if he or she marries, except only through death, Please read Proverbs 6 v 26 & read Deuteronomy 30 This will change your Life. I will pray for you.
 
Your Conscience
by John Leo on 11th Sep, 2008
Dear Joyce, If you have divorced because you had not given your consent and married under persuation or compulsion or maybe your first husband cheated you or was married earlier or has cheated you in any way then that marriage or any marriage cannot be called a marriage. If your grounds of divorce are on flimsy grounds than it is 100% adultery no matter what Sebastian D'souza says.

"I challenge Sebastian D'souza to a open discussion on Catholicism where he says we Catholics don't know the scriptures or know little of it. We Catholics follow the Bible than most of you Catholic Critics even know about it."

By taking verses off the context you try to be too smart little knowing you know too little of it. Be humble before the Lord's priests and servants and don't show your pride or you will be humbled. The Bible is a holy book and misusing it for personal gain can only destroy you so read it carefully and put it into practice like St. Don Bosco, St. Vincent De Paul, Mother Theresa and many other saints of the Church.

 
SURVIVAL
by DHRUVA on 11th Sep, 2008
BE TRUE TO YOURSELF AND THEN U CAN BE FALSE TO NONE
GOOD LUCK
 
STICK TO THIS MARRIAGE
by Julio Fernandes on 11th Sep, 2008
HI JOYCE,IF U GOT DIVORCE AND GOT MARRIED AGAIN.THATS GOOD. STICK TO THIS MARRIAGE. JULIO
 
LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THY SELF.
by Vinocate on 11th Sep, 2008
Hi Joyce, The above Title I put so that you must know that you are to love yourself first, then only you can learn to love another. Most of the time we reverse this 2nd commandment of GOD & that is why we encounter miseries in our lives.

Jesus came into this world to redeem us. To teach us how to live our lives to the fullest being in the present moment. He said do not worry for tomorrow, it will bring its own worries. He came to show us the way to the Father. His message was "GOD`S LOVE IS UNCONDITIONAL." so if you love God you have to be a good human being first. All Humans are the part & parcel of that ONE ORIGINAL BEING.

Jesus`s teachings were universal not pertaining only to Christianity He came to show humans, the way to the Father. He loved his fellow Men & Women & gave the women their rightful place in society. He rediculed the high priests who were teaching the people all wrong things in the name of the Bible. He said they were like one blind man leading the other blind. Jesus was fearless. He spoke his truth & was killed for that but that truth has set us free.If you have understood what that means, you have nothing to fear. There is no wrong done either in annulment or divorce. They are both the same if have a geniune reason for it. So if your reason for divorcing your first husband is good enough for you that is very good.Often spouses try to manipulate each other after marriage instead of giving each other their space. This is because each one can get things done the way he/she wants. One of them in the end suceeds, making the other`s life hell on earth. In olden days it was mostly the women who suffered because the man was the sole breadwinner & they had no choice but stick to such marriages. But now every thing is changing so one need not take another`s scrap & live in frustration till death do us apart. Do not worry what the people say or the Holy books say. after all they are written over & over again & each authour/writer has his own thing, to subtract or add to its originality. Just pray & meditate go deep whithin you where the God`s kingdom resides i& you will find all the right answers to your questions. Often the advice & solutions, others give may not serve you. Since you are a Christian make Jesus your councellor. He is there for all of us till the end of our time here on planet earth.

It won`t be right to divorce your second husband just because u want to be a good Christian. Is that the good reason for a divorce? You are a good person believe in God & your self & Be Happy & heal yourself of unnecessary worries. Touch the lives of others whom you come across with your good thoughts & words & actions. Remember what goes around comes around doublefold. Read some good spiritual books which might help you to better your self. Don`t take what ever comes your way as a punishment but for your growth for further evolving & doing the Soul`s work You will then see the wonderful things happening to you & your loved ones.
Read if you may, the book titled "TODAY IS OURS "by J. Maurus. There are many others if you need them I will send you the Titles.

GOD BLESS & GOOD LUCK
 
Little knowledge is dangerous.
by Sebastian D'Souza on 11th Sep, 2008
To John Leo, Don't feel offended.. Whatever I have written is a fact. I do say again that most of the catholics do not know the bible because they do not read the bible. And that is not their fault. Nobody has told them all these years that reading bible is important for their soul, as food is important for their body. They are happy with their life. John Leo does not mean all catholics and all catholics does not mean John Leo. Please do not try to represent the whole community. If you see around and ask some of your friends or neighbours you will come to know what I say is correct. You say that you follow the scripture, then Try to "be born again". What Jesus said to Nichodemus I say to you,else you will not enter the kingdom of God. Or unless you repent, you too will all perish. (Luke 13:3) So my dear brother, Read Acts chapter 2 verse 38 and 39 and see that you strictly follow it. I am not proud nor angry but keep on working for the Lord. I am doing it for the last 29 years and will do it for the rest of my life. I don't see what people say. It is part of christian life. Try to know the truth and the truth shall set you free. That' what the scripture says(John 8 32). My letter has touched your heart. I praise God for that. For Jesus said "Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. "(Mathew 5:11-12). When I became a Christian in 1979 and started telling people about Jesus, my neighbours started pelting stones on my house, many window panes were broken. That did not deter me from my faith rather my faith became stronger. People have insulted me ,even driven me from their houses. Today two of them have become Christians with their wives. Hallelujah. I think this is enough for the day. Bye and God bless you.
 
Keep loving God
by Shelly on 11th Sep, 2008
The road to success and personal happiness is littered with those who have tried that route and failed. So keep going Joyce, your wish to Love GOD itself will lead you to a proper path...
 
God bless you
by Raimundo on 11th Sep, 2008
Do not worry about Joyce. I will be praying for you and your husband. I am a Brazilian doctor... God bless you
 
Desire of our heart.
by Sebastian D'Souza on 13th Sep, 2008
Dear Joyce, You must have gone through my letter. I am praying daily for you. I like last sentence of your letter which says that you want to be a true christian. That's it. It's your spirit has spoken it. God sees what is in your heart and as per his promise he will definately honour you. Bible says. "Delight yourself in the Lord and he will give you desires of your heart. "(Psalm37:4) Further he also says. "Commit your way to the Lord; trust in him; he will make your righteousness shine like the dawn, the justice of your cause like the noonday sun. "(Psalm37:5) My dear child, Our God is faithful and just. So do not worry. Start reading bible daily. Start from John's gospel.Read one or two chapters and meditate on what you have read and pray that God may speak to you through those words. God is asking you to commit your way(life) to him. So obey his word and he will bless you. Meantime do one thing, Repent as the bible says in Acts chapter 2 verse 38 and 39.and get baptised in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off-for all whom the Lord our God will call. " You say that you want to be a true Christian. It is good but that demands obedience. Are you ready for that? Christianity is not a religion but it is a way of life. If it is so,then close your eyes and say this prayer and commit your life to Jesus."Lord Jesus I believe that I am a sinner.I also believe that you died for my sins. Lord Jesus forgive my sins and make me clean and righteous. Lord Jesus thank you for forgiving my sins and making me righteous. Give me your Holy Spirit. Thank you for giving your Holy spirit to me. Today I commit my life in your hands and promise that I will live as per your word. From today I will follow you. Lord Jesus thank you for accepting me as your child. I praise you in your mighty name. Amen." God wants that everyone should worship him in spirit and truth (John 4:24) Whenever you are alone and free,just worship him,adore him.To worship means just say."Lord Jesus I worship you, I adore you. Lord Jesus I glorify your name,magnify your name. Thank you for blessing me. " I would be happy if your husband also commits his life to Jesus. That would be fantastic.But for that he should be willing to pray along with you the above prayer.God does not want to force himself on anyone.If he is,then ask him to join you in prayer. I tell you, God will be really happy the day you'll commit your lives to him. Bible says. "I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent."(Luke 15 :7) Forget the past and think of today. Do not worry about what you were yesterday. Just think of today and do it.God will definately bless both of you.. Be assured that both of you will be in my daily prayers. Bye.
 
Go according to your conscience
by Maria Dias on 14th Sep, 2008
If you feel that you have done the right thing by re-marrying. Believe in yourself and be happy. God knows what is best for you.
 
Re-marriage
by Vicky on 17th Sep, 2008
Dear Joyce,
Its a wonderful thing that you love God but jumping to conclusions is stupidity. U are a bit selfish I'll say, dont get me wrong but u are only thinking of yourself. what about your husband after u divorce him ? won't he re-marry? of-cource u cant say that but if he do will he not commit adultery (as u believe),? who will be responsible for that ? IF I am not wrong i think it will be YOU. So forget your past, Live your presence and pray for your future. God wants not your silly sacrifice but your good deeds and your education and wisdom to be used i serving humanity, Such deeds which are beyond any religious frames.. SO ALWAYS JUST BE YOU
 
let god be the center of your life and continue to do what you want.
by tony on 26th Sep, 2008
you have remarried for better future and for the support you are looking or wanting from your love. There is no harm in doing so cus after all we are human beings and always feel the need of a true friend and good support in our own personal life. God is our good friend who guides everybody to take the right step. He is being good to you and so you need to be good to him by being faithful and by keeping him the center of your life. Dont forget to thank him.
 
Divorce
by silvester on 26th Nov, 2008
Only Lord Jesus can give you a correct a answer to your problem, pray to Him and seek the righteousness in Him. Through His word in the Bible gives you many options to know your case, what is united in One flesh by God is not to be separated, but in some cases due to infidelity or unrespectful relationship, options comes in prayer to find the possible solution of separation. May Lord Jesus guide you in your problem.
 
catholics are not christians???????
by chico on 18th Dec, 2008
hey Sebestian D'Souza to me you are a joker a Believer joker who has been brain washed by those so called believers you need to know more about the catholic faith buddy u feel everyone is stupid not answewring to your stupid comments i've be keeping an eye on your comments for a while now .Now let me give you a few links so you and those who want to know more about the catholic faith Jus go through these links and have fun love

God Bless you & come back to the true Church The CATHOLIC Church a 2000 year old church authourised by Jesus that gave the world the Bible Yes The Bible ( Confused Sebestian D'Souza????????)
 
THIS IS THE TRUE CHURCH
by chico on 18th Dec, 2008
FOR SEBESTIAN D'SOUZAWhat Is The Catholic Church ?

by Bishop Fulton Sheen

"There are not over a hundred people in the United States who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions, however, who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church—which is, of course, quite a different thing. These millions can hardly be blamed for hating Catholics because Catholics “adore statues;” because they “put the Blessed Mother on the same level with God;” because they “say indulgence is a permission to commit sin;” because the Pope “is a Fascist;” because the Church “is the defender of Capitalism.” If the Church taught or believed any one of these things, it should be hated, but the fact is that the Church does not believe nor teach any one of them. It follows then that the hatred of the millions is directed against error and not against truth. As a matter of fact, if we Catholics believed all of the untruths and lies which were said against the Church, we probably would hate the Church a thousand times more than they do.

If I were not a Catholic, and were looking for the true Church in the world today, I would look for the one Church which did not get along well with the world; in other words, I would look for the Church which the world hates. My reason for doing this would be, that if Christ is in any one of the churches of the world today, He must still be hated as He was when He was on earth in the flesh. If you would find Christ today, then find the Church that does not get along with the world. Look for the Church that is hated by the world, as Christ was hated by the world. Look for the Church which is accused of being behind the times, as Our Lord was accused of being ignorant and never having learned. Look for the Church which men sneer at as socially inferior, as they sneered at Our Lord because He came from Nazareth. Look for the Church which is accused of having a devil, as Our Lord was accused of being possessed by Beelzebub, the Prince of Devils. Look for the Church which the world rejects because it claims it is infallible, as Pilate rejected Christ because he called Himself the Truth. Look for the Church which amid the confusion of conflicting opinions, its members love as they love Christ, and respect its voice as the very voice of its Founder, and the suspicion will grow, that if the Church is unpopular with the spirit of the world, then it is unworldly, and if it is unworldly, it is other-worldly. Since it is other-worldly, it is infinitely loved and infinitely hated as was Christ Himself. ... the Catholic Church is the only Church existing today which goes back to the time of Christ. History is so very clear on this point, it is curious how many miss its obviousness..."
 
150 REASONS I'M A CATHOLIC
by chico on 18th Dec, 2008
One Hundred Fifty Reasons I'm Catholic

And You Should Be Too!

by Dave Armstrong

1. Best One-Sentence Summary: I am convinced that the Catholic Church conforms much more closely to all of the biblical data, offers the only coherent view of the history of Christianity (i.e., Christian, apostolic Tradition), and possesses the most profound and sublime Christian morality, spirituality, social ethic, and philosophy.

2. Alternate: I am a Catholic because I sincerely believe, by virtue of much cumulative evidence, that Catholicism is true, and that the Catholic Church is the visible Church divinely-established by our Lord Jesus, against which the gates of hell cannot and will not prevail (Mt 16:18), thereby possessing an authority to which I feel bound in Christian duty to submit.

3. 2nd Alternate: I left Protestantism because it was seriously deficient in its interpretation of the Bible (e.g., "faith alone" and many other "Catholic" doctrines - see evidences below), inconsistently selective in its espousal of various Catholic Traditions (e.g., the Canon of the Bible), inadequate in its ecclesiology, lacking a sensible view of Christian history (e.g., "Scripture alone"), compromised morally (e.g., contraception, divorce), and unbiblically schismatic, anarchical, and relativistic. I don't therefore believe that Protestantism is all bad (not by a long shot), but these are some of the major deficiencies I eventually saw as fatal to the "theory" of Protestantism, over against Catholicism. All Catholics must regard baptized, Nicene, Chalcedonian Protestants as Christians.

4. Catholicism isn't formally divided and sectarian (Jn 17:20-23; Rom 16:17; 1 Cor 1:10-13).

5. Catholic unity makes Christianity and Jesus more believable to the world (Jn 17:23).

6. Catholicism, because of its unified, complete, fully supernatural Christian vision, mitigates against secularization and humanism.

7. Catholicism avoids an unbiblical individualism which undermines Christian community (e.g., 1 Cor 12:25-26).

8. Catholicism avoids theological relativism, by means of dogmatic certainty and the centrality of the papacy.

9. Catholicism avoids ecclesiological anarchism - one cannot merely jump to another denomination when some disciplinary measure or censure is called for.

10. Catholicism formally (although, sadly, not always in practice) prevents the theological relativism which leads to the uncertainties within the Protestant system among laypeople.

11. Catholicism rejects the "State Church," which has led to governments dominating Christianity rather than vice-versa.

12. Protestant State Churches greatly influenced the rise of nationalism, which mitigated against universal equality and Christian universalism (i.e., Catholicism).

13. Unified Catholic Christendom (before the 16th century) had not been plagued by the tragic religious wars which in turn led to the "Enlightenment," in which men rejected the hypocrisy of inter-Christian warfare and decided to become indifferent to religion rather than letting it guide their lives.

14. Catholicism retains the elements of mystery, supernatural, and the sacred in Christianity, thus opposing itself to secularization, where the sphere of the religious in life becomes greatly limited.

15. Protestant individualism led to the privatization of Christianity, whereby it is little respected in societal and political life, leaving the "public square" barren of Christian influence.

16. The secular false dichotomy of "church vs. world" has led committed orthodox Christians, by and large, to withdraw from politics, leaving a void filled by pagans, cynics, unscrupulous, and power-hungry. Catholicism offers a framework in which to approach the state and civic responsibility.

17. Protestantism leans too much on mere traditions of men (every denomination stems from one Founder's vision. As soon as two or more of these contradict each other, error is necessarily present).

18. Protestant churches (esp. evangelicals), are far too often guilty of putting their pastors on too high of a pedestal. In effect, every pastor becomes a "pope," to varying degrees (some are "super-popes"). Because of this, evangelical congregations often experience a severe crisis and/or split up when a pastor leaves, thus proving that their philosophy is overly man-centered, rather than God-centered.

19. Protestantism, due to lack of real authority and dogmatic structure, is tragically prone to accommodation to the spirit of the age, and moral faddism.

20. Catholicism retains apostolic succession, necessary to know what is true Christian apostolic Tradition. It was the criterion of Christian truth used by the early Christians.

21. Many Protestants take a dim view towards Christian history in general, esp. the years from 313 (Constantine's conversion) to 1517 (Luther's arrival). This ignorance and hostility to Catholic Tradition leads to theological relativism, anti-Catholicism, and a constant, unnecessary process of "reinventing the wheel."

22. Protestantism from its inception was anti-Catholic, and remains so to this day (esp. evangelicalism). This is obviously wrong and unbiblical if Catholicism is indeed Christian (if it isn't, then - logically - neither is Protestantism, which inherited the bulk of its theology from Catholicism). The Catholic Church, on the other hand, is not anti-Protestant.

23. The Catholic Church accepts the authority of the great Ecumenical Councils (see, e.g., Acts 15) which defined and developed Christian doctrine (much of which Protestantism also accepts).

24. Most Protestants do not have bishops, a Christian office which is biblical (1 Tim 3:1-2) and which has existed from the earliest Christian history and Tradition.

25. Protestantism has no way of settling doctrinal issues definitively. At best, the individual Protestant can only take a head count of how many Protestant scholars, commentators, etc. take such-and-such a view on Doctrine X, Y, or Z. There is no unified Protestant Tradition.

26. Protestantism arose in 1517, and is a "Johnny-come-lately" in the history of Christianity. Therefore it cannot possibly be the "restoration" of "pure", "primitive" Christianity, since this is ruled out by the fact of its absurdly late appearance. Christianity must have historic continuity or it is not Christianity. Protestantism is necessarily a "parasite" of Catholicism, historically and doctrinally speaking.

27. The Protestant notion of the "invisible church" is also novel in the history of Christianity and foreign to the Bible (Mt 5:14; Mt 16:18), therefore untrue.

28. When Protestant theologians speak of the teaching of early Christianity (e.g., when refuting "cults"), they say "the Church taught . . ." (as it was then unified), but when they refer to the present they instinctively and inconsistently refrain from such terminology, since universal teaching authority now clearly resides only in the Catholic Church.

29. The Protestant principle of private judgment has created a milieu (esp. in Protestant America) in which (invariably) man-centered "cults" such as Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormonism, and Christian Science arise. The very notion that one can "start" a new, or "the true" Church is Protestant to the core.

30. The lack of a definitive teaching authority in Protestant (as with the Catholic magisterium) makes many individual Protestants think that they have a direct line to God, notwithstanding all of Christian Tradition and the history of biblical exegesis (a "Bible, Holy Spirit and me" mentality). Such people are generally under-educated theologically, unteachable, lack humility, and have no business making presumed "infallible" statements about the nature of Christianity.

31. Evangelicalism's "techniques" of evangelism are often contrived and manipulative, certainly not directly derived from the text of the Bible. Some even resemble brainwashing to a degree.

32. The gospel preached by many evangelical Protestant evangelists and pastors is a truncated and abridged, individualistic and ear-tickling gospel, in effect merely "fire insurance" rather than the biblical gospel as proclaimed by the Apostles.

33. Evangelicalism often separates profound, life-transforming repentance and radical discipleship from its gospel message. The Lutheran Bonhoeffer called this "cheap grace."

34. The absence of the idea of submission to spiritual authority in Protestantism has leaked over into the civic arena, where the ideas of personal "freedom," "rights," and "choice" now dominate to such an extent that civic duty, communitarianism, and discipline are tragically neglected, to the detriment of a healthy society.

35. Catholicism retains the sense of the sacred, the sublime, the holy, and the beautiful in spirituality. The ideas of altar, and "sacred space" are preserved. Many Protestant churches are no more than "meeting halls" or "gymnasiums" or "barn"-type structures. Most Protestants' homes are more esthetically striking than their churches. Likewise, Protestants are often "addicted to mediocrity" in their appreciation of art, music, architecture, drama, the imagination, etc.

36. Protestantism has largely neglected the place of liturgy in worship (with notable exceptions such as Anglicanism and Lutheranism). This is the way Christians had always worshiped down through the centuries, and thus can't be so lightly dismissed.

37. Protestantism tends to oppose matter and spirit, favoring the latter, and is somewhat Gnostic or Docetic in this regard.

38. Catholicism upholds the "incarnational principle," wherein Jesus became flesh and thus raised flesh and matter to new spiritual heights.

39. Protestantism greatly limits or disbelieves in sacramentalism, which is simply the extension of the incarnational principle and the belief that matter can convey grace. Some sects (e.g., Baptists, many Pentecostals) reject all sacraments.

40. Protestants' excessive mistrust of the flesh ("carnality") often leads to (in evangelicalism or fundamentalism) an absurd legalism (no dancing, drinking, card-playing, rock music, etc.).

41. Many Protestants tend to separate life into categories of "spiritual" and "carnal," as if God is not Lord of all of life. It forgets that all non-sinful endeavors are ultimately spiritual.

42. Protestantism has removed the Eucharist from the center and focus of Christian worship services. Some Protestants observe it only monthly, or even quarterly. This is against the Tradition of the early Church.

43. Most Protestants regard the Eucharist symbolically, which is contrary to universal Christian Tradition up to 1517, and the Bible (Mt 26:26-28; Jn 6:47-63; 1 Cor 10:14-22; 1 Cor 11:23-30), which hold to the Real Presence (another instance of the antipathy to matter).

44. Protestantism has virtually ceased to regard marriage as a sacrament, contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (Mt 19:4-5; 1 Cor 7:14; 1 Cor 7:39; Eph 5:25-33).

45. Protestantism has abolished the priesthood (Mt 18:18) and the sacrament of ordination, contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (Acts 6:6; Acts 14:22; 1 Tim 4:14; 2 Tim 1:6).

46. Catholicism retains the Pauline notion of the spiritual practicality of a celibate clergy (e.g., Mt 19:12, 1 Cor 7:8, 1 Cor 7:27, 1 Cor 7:32-33).

47. Protestantism has largely rejected the sacrament of confirmation (Acts 8:18, Heb 6:2-4), contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible.

48. Many Protestants have denied infant baptism, contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (Acts 2:38-39; Acts 16:15; Acts 16:33; Acts 18:8; 1 Cor 1:16; Col 2:11-12). Protestantism is divided into five major camps on the question of baptism.

49. The great majority of Protestants deny baptismal regeneration, contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (Mk 16:16; Jn 3:5; Acts 2:38; Acts 22:16; Rom 6:3-4; 1 Cor 6:11; Titus 3:5).

50. Protestants have rejected the sacrament of anointing of the sick (Extreme Unction / "Last Rites"), contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (Mk 6:13; 1 Cor 12:9, 1 Cor 12:30; Jas 5:14-15).

51. Protestantism denies the indissolubility of sacramental marriage and allows divorce, contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (Gen 2:24; Mal 2:14-16; Mt 5:32; Mat 19:6, Mat 19:9; Mk 10:11-12; Lk 16:18; Rom 7:2-3; 1 Cor 7:10-14; 1 Cor 7:39).

52. Protestantism doesn't believe procreation to be the primary purpose and benefit of marriage (it isn't part of the vows, as in Catholic matrimony), contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (Gen 1:28; Gen 28:3, Ps 107:38; Ps 127:3-5).

53. Protestantism sanctions contraception, in defiance of universal Christian Tradition (Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant) up until 1930 - when the Anglicans first allowed it - and the Bible (Gen 38:8-10; Gen 41:52; Ex 23:25-26; Lev 26:9; Deut 7:14; Ruth 4:13; Lk 1:24-25). Now, only Catholicism retains the ancient Tradition against the "anti-child" mentality.

54. Protestantism (mostly its liberal wing) has accepted abortion as a moral option, contrary to universal Christian Tradition until recently (sometime after 1930), and the Bible (e.g., Ex 20:13; Job 31:15; Ps 139:13-16; Isa 44:2; Isa 49:5; Jer 1:5; Jer 2:34; Lk 1:15; Lk 1:41; Rom 13:9-10).

55. Protestantism (largely liberal denominations) allow women pastors (and even bishops, as in Anglicanism), contrary to Christian Tradition (inc. traditional Protestant theology) and the Bible (Mt 10:1-4; 1 Tim 2:11-15; 1 Tim 3:1-12; Titus 1:6).

56. Protestantism is, more and more, formally and officially compromising with currently fashionable radical feminism, which denies the roles of men and women, as taught in the Bible (Gen 2:18-23; 1 Cor 11:3-10) and maintained by Christian Tradition (differentiation of roles, but not of equality).

57. Protestantism is also currently denying, with increasing frequency, the headship of the husband in marriage, which is based upon the headship of the Father over the Son (while equal in essence) in the Trinity, contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (1 Cor 11:3; Eph 5:22-33; Col 3:18-19; 1 Pet 3:1-2). This too, is based on a relationship of equality (1 Cor 11:11-12; Gal 3:28; Eph 5:21).

58. Liberal Protestantism (most notably Anglicanism) has even ordained practicing homosexuals as pastors and blessed their "marriages," or taught that homosexuality is merely an involuntary, "alternate" lifestyle, contrary to formerly universal Christian Tradition, as the Bible clearly teaches (Gen 19:4-25; Rom 1:18-27; 1 Cor 6:9). Catholicism stands firm on traditional morality.

59. Liberal Protestantism, and evangelicalism increasingly, have accepted "higher critical" methods of biblical interpretation which lead to the destruction of the traditional Christian reverence for the Bible, and demote it to the status of largely a human, fallible document, to the detriment of its divine, infallible essence.

60. Many liberal Protestants have thrown out many cardinal doctrines of Christianity, such as the Incarnation, Virgin Birth, the Bodily Resurrection of Christ, the Trinity, Original Sin, hell, the existence of the devil, miracles, etc.

61. The founders of Protestantism denied, and Calvinists today deny, the reality of human free will (Luther's favorite book was his Bondage of the Will). This is both contrary to the constant premise of the Bible, Christian Tradition, and common sense.

62. Classical Protestantism had a deficient view of the Fall of Man, thinking that the result was "total depravity." According to Luther, Zwingli, Calvin, and Calvinists, man could only do evil of his own volition, and had no free will to do good. He now has a "sin nature." Catholicism believes that, in a mysterious way, man cooperates with the grace which always precedes all good actions. In Catholicism, man's nature still retains some good, although he has a propensity to sin ("concupiscence").

63. Classical Protestantism, and Calvinism today, make God the author of evil. He supposedly wills that men do evil and violate His precepts without having any free will to do so. This is blasphemous, and turns God into a demon.

64. Accordingly (man having no free will), God, in classical Protestant and Calvinist thought, predestines men to hell, although they had no choice or say in the matter all along!

65. Classical Protestantism and Calvinism, teach falsely that Jesus died only for the elect (i.e., those who will make it to heaven).

66. Classical Protestantism (esp. Luther), and Calvinism, due to their false view of the Fall, deny the efficacy and capacity of human reason to know God to some extent (both sides agree that revelation and grace are also necessary), and oppose it to God and faith, contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (Mk 12:28; Lk 10:27; Jn 20:24-29; Acts 1:3; Acts 17:2, Acts 17:17, Acts 17:22-34; Acts 19:8). The best Protestant apologists today simply hearken back to the Catholic heritage of St. Aquinas, St. Augustine, and many other great thinkers.

67. Pentecostal or charismatic Protestantism places much too high an emphasis on spiritual experience, not balancing it properly with reason, the Bible, and Tradition (including the authority of the Church to pronounce on the validity of "private revelations").

68. Other Protestants (e.g., many Baptists) deny that spiritual gifts such as healing are present in the current age (supposedly they ceased with the apostles).

69. Protestantism has contradictory views of church government, or ecclesiology (episcopal, Presbyterian, congregational, or no collective authority at all), thus making discipline, unity and order impossible. Some sects even claim to have "apostles" or "prophets" among them, with all the accompanying abuses of authority resulting therefrom.

70. Protestantism (esp. evangelicalism) has an undue fascination for the "end of the world," which has led to unbiblical date-setting (Mt 24:30-44; Mt 25:13; Lk 12:39-40) and much human tragedy among those who are taken in by such false prophecies.

71. Evangelicalism's over-emphasis on the "imminent end" of the age has often led to a certain "pie-in-the sky" mentality, to the detriment of social, political, ethical, and economic sensibilities here on earth.

72. Protestant thought has the defining characteristic of being "dichotomous," i.e., it separates ideas into more or less exclusive and mutually-hostile camps, when in fact many of the dichotomies are simply complementary rather than contradictory. Protestantism is "either-or," whereas Catholicism takes a "both-and" approach. Examples follow:

73. Protestantism pits the Word (the Bible, preaching) against sacraments.

74. Protestantism sets up inner devotion and piety against the Liturgy.

75. Protestantism opposes spontaneous worship to form prayers.

76. Protestantism separates the Bible from the Church.

77. Protestantism creates the false dichotomy of Bible vs. Tradition.

78. Protestantism pits Tradition against the Holy Spirit.

79. Protestantism considers Church authority and individual liberty and conscience contradictory.

80. Protestantism (esp. Luther) sets up the Old Testament against the New Testament, even though Jesus did not do so (Mt 5:17-19; Mk 7:8-11; Lk 24:27; Lk 24:44; Jn 5:45-47).

81. On equally unbiblical grounds, Protestantism opposes law to grace.

82. Protestantism creates a false dichotomy between symbolism and sacramental reality (e.g., baptism, Eucharist).

83. Protestantism separates the Individual from Christian community (1 Cor 12:14-27).

84. Protestantism pits the veneration of saints against the worship of God. Catholic theology doesn't permit worship of saints in the same fashion as that directed towards God. Saints are revered and honored, not adored, as only God the Creator can be.

85. The anti-historical outlook of many Protestants leads to individuals thinking that the Holy Spirit is speaking to them, but has not, in effect, spoken to the multitudes of Christians for 1500 years before Protestantism began!

86. Flaws in original Protestant thought have led to even worse errors in reaction. E.g., extrinsic justification, devised to assure the predominance of grace, came to prohibit any outward sign of its presence ("faith vs. works," "sola fide"). Calvinism, with its cruel God, turned men off to such an extent that they became Unitarians (as in New England). Many founders of cults of recent origin started out Calvinist (Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science, The Way International, etc.).

87. Evangelicalism is unbiblically obsessed (in typically American fashion) with celebrities (TV Evangelists).

88. Evangelicalism is infatuated with the false idea that great numbers in a congregation (or rapid growth) are a sign of God's presence in a special way, and His unique blessing. They forget that Mormonism is also growing by leaps and bounds. God calls us to faithfulness rather than to "success," obedience, not flattering statistics.

89. Evangelicalism often emphasizes numerical growth rather than individual spiritual growth.

90. Evangelicalism is presently obsessed with self-fulfillment, self-help, and oftentimes, outright selfishness, rather than the traditional Christian stress on suffering, sacrifice, and service.

91. Evangelicalism has a truncated and insufficient view of the place of suffering in the Christian life. Instead, "health-and-wealth" and "name-it-and-claim-it" movements within Pentecostal Protestantism are flourishing, which have a view of possessions not in harmony with the Bible and Christian Tradition.

92. Evangelicalism has, by and large, adopted a worldview which is, in many ways, more capitalist than Christian. Wealth and personal gain is sought more than godliness, and is seen as a proof of God's favor, as in Puritan, and secularized American thought, over against the Bible and Christian teaching.

93. Evangelicalism is increasingly tolerating far-left political outlooks not in accord with Christian views, esp. at its seminaries and colleges.

94. Evangelicalism is increasingly tolerating theological heterodoxy and liberalism, to such an extent that many evangelical leaders are alarmed, and predict a further decay of orthodox standards.

95. "Positive confession" movements in Pentecostal evangelicalism have adopted views of God (in effect) as a "cosmic bellhop," subject to man's frivolous whims and desires of the moment, thus denying God's absolute sovereignty and prerogative to turn down any of man's improper prayer requests (Jas 4:3; 1 Jn 5:14).

96. The above sects usually teach that anyone can be healed who has enough "faith," contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (e.g., Job, St. Paul's "thorn in the flesh," usu. considered a disease by most Protestant commentators).

97. Evangelicalism, by its own self-critiques, is badly infected with pragmatism, the false philosophical view that "whatever works is true, or right." The gospel, esp. on TV, is sold in the same way that McDonalds hawks hamburgers. Technology, mass-market and public relations techniques have largely replaced personal pastoral care and social concern for the downtrodden, irreligious, and unchurched masses.

98. Sin, in evangelicalism, is increasingly seen as a psychological failure or a lack of self-esteem, rather than the willful revolt against God that it is.

99. Protestantism, in all essential elements, merely borrows wholesale from Catholic Tradition, or distorts the same. All doctrines upon which Catholics and Protestants agree, are clearly Catholic in origin (Trinity, Virgin Birth, Resurrection, 2nd Coming, Canon of the Bible, heaven, hell, etc.). Those where Protestantism differs are usually distortions of Catholic forerunners. E.g., Quakerism is a variant of Catholic Quietism. Calvinism is an over-obsession with the Catholic idea of the sovereignty of God, but taken to lengths beyond what Catholicism ever taught (denial of free will, total depravity, double predestination, etc.). Protestant dichotomies such as faith vs. works, come from nominalism, which was itself a corrupt form of Scholasticism, never dogmatically sanctioned by the Catholic Church. Whatever life or truth is present in each Protestant idea, always is derived from Catholicism, which is the fulfillment of the deepest and best aspirations within Protestantism.

100. One of Protestantism's foundational principles is sola Scriptura, which is neither a biblical (see below), historical (nonexistent until the 16th century), nor logical (it's self-defeating) idea:

101. The Bible doesn't contain the whole of Jesus' teaching, or Christianity, as many Protestants believe (Mk 4:33; Mk 6:34; Lk 24:15-16; Lk 24:25-27; Jn 16:12; Jn 20:30; Jn 21:25; Acts 1:2-3).

102. Sola Scriptura is an abuse of the Bible, since it is a use of the Bible contrary to its explicit and implicit testimony about itself and Tradition. An objective reading of the Bible leads one to Tradition and the Catholic Church, rather than the opposite. The Bible is, in fact, undeniably a Christian Tradition itself!

103. The NT was neither written nor received as the Bible at first, but only gradually so (i.e., early Christianity couldn't have believed in sola Scriptura like current Protestants, unless it referred to the OT alone).

104. Tradition is not a bad word in the Bible. Gk. paradosis refers to something handed on from one to another (good or bad). Good (Christian) Tradition is spoken of in 1 Cor 11:2; 2 Thess 2:15, 2 Thess 3:6, and Col 2:8. In the latter it is contrasted with traditions of men.

105. Christian Tradition, according to the Bible, can be oral as well as written (2 Thess 2:15; 2 Tim 1:13-14; 2 Tim 2:2). St. Paul makes no qualitative distinction between the two forms.

106. The phrases "word of God" or "word of the Lord" in Acts and the epistles almost always refer to oral preaching, not to the Bible itself. Much of the Bible was originally oral (e.g., Jesus' entire teaching- He wrote nothing -St. Peter's sermon at Pentecost, etc.).

107. Contrary to many Protestant claims, Jesus didn't condemn all tradition any more than St. Paul did. E.g., Mt 15:3,6; Mk 7:8-9, Mk 7:13, where He condemns corrupt Pharisaical tradition only. He says "your tradition."

108. Gk. paradidomi, or "delivering" Christian, apostolic Tradition occurs in Lk 1:1-2; Rom 6:17; 1 Cor 11:23; 1 Cor 15:3; 2 Pet 2:21; Jude 3. Paralambano, or "receiving" Christian Tradition occurs in 1 Cor 15:1-2; Gal 1:9,12; 1 Thess 2:13.

109. The concepts of "Tradition," "gospel," "word of God," "doctrine," and "the Faith" are essentially synonymous, and all are predominantly oral. E.g., in the Thessalonian epistles alone St. Paul uses 3 of these interchangeably (2 Thess 2:15; 2 Thess 3:6; 1 Thess 2:9,13 (cf. Gal 1:9; Acts 8:14). If Tradition is a dirty word, then so is "gospel" and "word of God"!

110. St. Paul, in 1 Tim 3:15, puts the Church above Bible as the grounds for truth, as in Catholicism.

111. Protestantism's chief "proof text" for sola Scriptura, 2 Tim 3:16, fails, since it says that the Bible is profitable, but not sufficient for learning and righteousness. Catholicism agrees it is great for these purposes, but not exclusively so, as in Protestantism. Secondly, when St. Paul speaks of "Scripture" here, the NT didn't yet exist (not definitively for over 300 more years), thus he is referring to the OT only. This would mean that NT wasn't necessary for the rule of faith, if sola Scriptura were true, and if it were supposedly alluded to in this verse!

112. The above 11 factors being true, Catholicism maintains that all its Tradition is consistent with the Bible, even where the Bible is mute or merely implicit on a subject. For Catholicism, every doctrine need not be found primarily in the Bible, for this is Protestantism's principle of sola Scriptura. On the other hand, most Catholic theologians claim that all Catholic doctrines can be found in some fashion in the Bible, in kernel form, or by (usu. extensive) inference.

113. As thoughtful evangelical scholars have pointed out, an unthinking sola Scriptura position can turn into "bibliolatry," almost a worship of the Bible rather than God who is its Author. This mentality is similar to the Muslim view of Revelation, where no human elements whatsoever were involved. Sola Scriptura,, rightly understood from a more sophisticated Protestant perspective, means that the Bible is the final authority in Christianity, not the record of all God has said and done, as many evangelicals believe.

114. Christianity is unavoidably and intrinsically historical. All the events of Jesus' life (Incarnation, Crucifixion, Resurrection, Ascension, etc.) were historical, as was the preaching of the apostles. Tradition, therefore, of some sort, is unavoidable, contrary to numerous shortsighted Protestant claims that sola Scriptura annihilates Tradition. This is true both for matters great (ecclesiology, trinitarianism, justification) and small (church budgets, type of worship music, lengths of sermons, etc.). Every denial of a particular tradition involves a bias (hidden or open) towards one's own alternate tradition (E.g., if all Church authority is spurned, even individualistic autonomy is a "tradition," which ought to be defended as a Christian view in some fashion).

115. Sola Scriptura literally couldn't have been true, practically speaking, for most Christians throughout history, since the movable-type printing press only appeared in the mid-15th century. Preaching and oral Tradition, along with things like devotional practices, Christian holidays, church architecture and other sacred art, were the primary carriers of the gospel for 1400 years. For all these centuries, sola Scriptura would have been regarded as an absurd abstraction and impossibility.

116. Protestantism claims that the Catholic Church has "added to the Bible." The Catholic Church replies that it has merely drawn out the implications of the Bible (development of doctrine), and followed the understanding of the early Church, and that Protestants have "subtracted" from the Bible by ignoring large portions of it which suggest Catholic positions. Each side thinks the other is "unbiblical," but in different ways.

117. Sola Scriptura is Protestantism's "Achilles' Heel." Merely invoking sola Scriptura is no solution to the problem of authority and certainty as long as multiple interpretations exist. If the Bible were so clear that all Protestants agreed simply by reading it with a willingness to accept and follow its teaching, this would be one thing, but since this isn't the case by a long shot (the multiplicity of denominations), sola Scriptura is a pipe-dream at best. About all that all Protestants agree on is that Catholicism is wrong! Of all Protestant ideas, the "clarity" or perspicuity of the Bible is surely one of the most absurd and the most demonstrably false by the historical record.

118. Put another way, having a Bible does not render one's private judgment infallible. Interpretation is just as inevitable as tradition. The Catholic Church therefore, is absolutely necessary in order to speak authoritatively and to prevent confusion, error, and division.

119. Catholicism doesn't regard the Bible as obscure, mysterious, and inaccessible, but it is vigilant to protect it from all arbitrary and aberrant exegesis (2 Pet 1:20, 3:16). The best Protestant traditions seek to do the same, but are inadequate and ineffectual since they are divided.

120. Protestantism has a huge problem with the Canon of the NT. The process of determining the exact books which constitute the NT lasted until 397 A.D., when the Council of Carthage spoke with finality, certainly proof that the Bible is not "self-authenticating," as Protestantism believes. Some sincere, devout, and learned Christians doubted the canonicity of some books which are now in the Bible, and others considered books as Scripture which were not at length included in the Canon. St. Athanasius in 367 was the first to list all 27 books in the NT as Scripture.

121. The Council of Carthage, in deciding the Canon of the entire Bible in 397, included the so-called "Apocryphal" books, which Protestants kicked out of the Bible (i.e., a late tradition). Prior to the 16th century Christians considered these books Scripture, and they weren't even separated from the others, as they are today in the Protestant Bibles which include them. Protestantism accepts the authority of this Council for the NT, but not the OT, just as it arbitrarily and selectively accepts or denies other conciliar decrees, according to their accord with existing Protestant "dogmas" and biases.

122. Contrary to Protestant anti-Catholic myth, the Catholic Church has always revered the Bible, and hasn't suppressed it (it protested some Protestant translations, but Protestants have often done the same regarding Catholic versions). This is proven by the laborious care of monks in protecting and copying manuscripts, and the constant translations into vernacular tongues (as opposed to the falsehoods about only Latin Bibles), among other plentiful and indisputable historical evidences. The Bible is a Catholic book, and no matter how much Protestants study it and proclaim it as peculiarly their own, they must acknowledge their undeniable debt to the Catholic Church for having decided the Canon, and for preserving the Bible intact for 1400 years. How could the Catholic Church be "against the Bible," as anti-Catholics say, yet at the same time preserve and revere the Bible profoundly for so many years? The very thought is so absurd as to be self-refuting. If Catholicism is indeed as heinous as anti-Catholics would have us believe, Protestantism ought to put together its own Bible, instead of using the one delivered to them by the Catholic Church, as it obviously could not be trusted!

123. Protestantism denies the Sacrifice of the Mass, contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (Gen 14:18; Ps 110:4; Isa 66:18,21; Mal 1:11; Heb 7:24-25; Heb 13:10; Rev 5:1-10/cf. Rev 8:3; Rev 13:8). Catholicism, it must be emphasized, doesn't believe that Jesus is sacrificed over and over at each Mass; rather, each Mass is a representation of the one Sacrifice at Calvary on the Cross, which transcends space and time, as in Rev 13:8.

124. Protestantism disbelieves, by and large, in the development of doctrine, contrary to Christian Tradition and many implicit biblical indications. Whenever the Bible refers to the increasing knowledge and maturity of Christians individually and (particularly) collectively, an idea similar to development is present. Further, many doctrines develop in the Bible before our eyes ("progressive revelation"). Examples: the afterlife, the Trinity, acceptance of Gentiles. And doctrines which Protestantism accepts whole and entire from Catholicism, such as the Trinity and the Canon of the Bible, developed in history, in the first three centuries of Christianity. It is foolish to try and deny this. The Church is the "Body" of Christ, and is a living organism, which grows and develops like all living bodies. It is not a statue, simply to be cleaned and polished over time, as many Protestants seem to think.

125. Protestantism separates justification from sanctification, contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (e.g., Mt 5:20; Mat 7:20-24; Rom 2:7-13; 1 Cor 6:11; 1 Pet 1:2).

126. Protestantism pits faith against works (sola fide), which is a rejection of Christian Tradition and the explicit teaching of the Bible (Mt 25:31-46; Lk 18:18-25; Jn 6:27-29; Gal 5:6; Eph 2:8-10; Phil 2:12-13; Phil 3:10-14; 1 Thess 1:3; 2 Thess 1:11; Heb 5:9; Jas 1:21-27; Jas 2:14-16). These passages also indicate that salvation is a process, not an instantaneous event, as in Protestantism.

127. Protestantism rejects the Christian Tradition and biblical teaching of merit, or differential reward for our good deeds done in faith (Mt 16:27; Rom 2:6; 1 Cor 3:8-9; 1 Pet 1:17; Rev 22:12).

128. Protestantism's teaching of extrinsic, imputed, forensic, or external justification contradicts the Christian Tradition and biblical doctrine of infused, actual, internal, transformational justification (which inc. sanctification): Ps 51:2-10; Ps 103:12; Jn 1:29; Rom 5:19; 2 Cor 5:17; Heb 1:3; 1 Jn 1:7-9.

129. Many Protestants (esp. Presbyterians, Calvinists and Baptists) believe in eternal security, or, perseverance of the saints (the belief that one can't lose his "salvation," supposedly obtained at one point in time). This is contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible: 1 Cor 9:27; Gal 4:9; Gal 5:1,4; Col 1:22-3; 1 Tim 1:19-20; 1 Tim 4:1; 1 Tim 5:15; Heb 3:12-14; Heb 6:4-6; Heb 10:26,29,39; Heb 12:14-15; 2 Pet 2:15, 2 Pet 2:20-21; Rev 2:4-5.

130. Contrary to Protestant myth and anti-Catholicism, the Catholic Church doesn't teach that one is saved by works apart from preceding and enabling grace, but that faith and works are inseparable, as in James 1 and 2. This heresy of which Catholicism is often charged, was in fact condemned by the Catholic Church at the Second Council of Orange in 529 A.D. It is known as Pelagianism, the view that man could save himself by his own natural efforts, without the necessary supernatural grace from God. A more moderate view, Semi-Pelagianism, was likewise condemned. To continue to accuse the Catholic Church of this heresy is a sign of both prejudice and manifest ignorance of the history of theology, as well as the clear Catholic teaching of the Council of Trent (1545-63), available for all to see. Yet the myth is strangely prevalent.

131. Protestantism has virtually eliminated the practice of confession to a priest (or at least a pastor), contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (Mt 16:19; Mt 18:18; Jn 20:23).

132. Protestantism disbelieves in penance, or temporal punishment for (forgiven) sin, over against Christian Tradition and the Bible (e.g., Num 14:19-23; 2 Sam 12:13-14; 1 Cor 11:27-32; Heb 12:6-8).

133. Protestantism has little concept of the Tradition and biblical doctrine of mortifying the flesh, or, suffering with Christ: Mt 10:38; 16:24: Rom 8:13,17; 1 Cor 12:24-6; Phil 3:10; 1 Pet 4:1,13.

134. Likewise, Protestantism has lost the Tradition and biblical doctrine of vicarious atonement, or redemptive suffering with Christ, of Christians for the sake of each other: Ex 32:30-32; Num 16:43-8; 25:6-13; 2 Cor 4:10; Col 1:24; 2 Tim 4:6.

135. Protestantism has rejected the Tradition and biblical doctrine of purgatory, as a consequence of its false view of justification and penance, despite sufficient evidence in Scripture: Is 4:4; 6:5-7; Micah 7:8-9; Mal 3:1-4; 2 Maccabees 12:39-45; Mt 5:25-6; 12:32; Lk 16:19-31 (cf. Eph 4:8-10; 1 Pet 3:19-20); 1 Cor 3:11-15; 2 Cor 5:10; Rev 21:27.

136. Protestantism has rejected (largely due to misconceptions and misunderstanding) the Catholic developed doctrine of indulgences, which is, simply, the remission of the temporal punishment for sin (i.e., penance), by the Church (on the grounds of Mt 16:19; 18:18, and Jn 20:23). This is no different than what St. Paul did, concerning an errant brother at the Church of Corinth. He first imposed a penance on him (1 Cor 5:3-5), then remitted part of it (an indulgence: 2 Cor 2:6-11). Just because abuses occurred prior to the Protestant Revolt (admitted and rectified by the Catholic Church), is no reason to toss out yet another biblical doctrine. It is typical of Protestantism to burn down a house rather than to cleanse it, to "throw the baby out with the bath water."

137. Protestantism has thrown out prayers for the dead, in opposition to Christian Tradition and the Bible (Tobit 12:12; 2 Maccabees 12:39-45; 1 Cor 15:29; 2 Tim 1:16-18; also verses having to do with purgatory, since these prayers are for the saints there).

138. Protestantism rejects, on inadequate grounds, the intercession of the saints for us after death, and the correspondent invocation of the saints for their effectual prayers (Jas 5:16). Christian Tradition and the Bible, on the other hand, have upheld this practice: Dead saints are aware of earthly affairs (Mt 22:30 w/ Lk 15:10 and 1 Cor 15:29; Heb 12:1), appear on earth to interact with men (1 Sam 28:12-15; Mt 17:1-3, 27:50-53; Rev 11:3), and therefore can intercede for us, and likewise be petitioned for their prayers, just as are Christians on earth (2 Maccabees 15:14; Rev 5:8; 6:9-10).

139. Some Protestants disbelieve in Guardian Angels, despite Christian Tradition and the Bible (Ps 34:7; 91:11; Mt 18:10; Acts 12:15; Heb 1:14).

140. Most Protestants deny that angels can intercede for us, contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (Rev 1:4; 5:8; 8:3-4).

141. Protestantism rejects Mary's Immaculate Conception, despite developed Christian Tradition and indications in the Bible: Gen 3:15; Lk 1:28 ("full of grace" Catholics interpret, on linguistic grounds, to mean "without sin"); Mary as a type of the Ark of the Covenant (Lk 1:35 w/ Ex 40:34-8; Lk 1:44 w/ 2 Sam 6:14-16; Lk 1:43 w/ 2 Sam 6:9: God's Presence requires extraordinary holiness).

142. Protestantism rejects Mary's Assumption, despite developed Christian Tradition and biblical indications: If Mary was indeed sinless, she would not have to undergo bodily decay at death (Ps 16:10; Gen 3:19). Similar occurrences in the Bible make the Assumption not implausible or "unbiblical" per se (Enoch: Gen 5:24 w/ Heb 11:5; Elijah: 2 Ki 2:11; Paul: 2 Cor 12:2-4; the Protestant doctrine of the "Rapture": 1 Thess 4:15-17; risen saints: Mt 27:52-3).

143. Many (most?) Protestants deny Mary's perpetual virginity, despite Christian Tradition (inc. the unanimous agreement of the Protestant founders (Luther, Calvin, Zwingli, etc.), some Protestant support, and several biblical evidences, too involved to briefly summarize.

144. Protestantism denies Mary's Spiritual Motherhood of Christians, contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (Jn 19:26-7: "Behold thy mother"; Rev 12:1,5,17: Christians described as "her seed.") Catholics believe that Mary is incomparably more alive and holy than we are, hence, her prayers for us are of great effect (Jas 5:16; Rev 5:8; 6:9-10). But she is our sister with regard to our position of creatures vis-à-vis the Creator, God. Mary never operates apart from the necessary graces from her Son, and always glorifies Him, not herself, as Catholic theology stresses.

145. Protestantism rejects the papacy, despite profound Christian Tradition, and the strong evidence in the Bible of Peter's preeminence and commission by Jesus as the Rock of His Church. No one denies he was some type of leader among the apostles. The papacy as we now know it is derived from this primacy: Mt 16:18-19; Lk 22:31-2; Jn 21:15-17 are the most direct "papal" passages. Peter's name appears first in all lists of apostles; even an angel implies he is their leader (Mk 16:7), and he is accepted by the world as such (Acts 2:37-8,41). He works the first miracle of the Church age (Acts 3:6-8), utters the first anathema (Acts 5:2-11), raises the dead (Acts 9:40), first receives the Gentiles (Acts 10:9-48), and his name is mentioned more often than all the other disciples put together (191 times). Much more similar evidence can be found.

146. The Church of Rome and the popes were central to the governance and theological direction and orthodoxy of the Christian Church from the beginning. This is undeniable. All of the historical groups now regarded as heretical by Protestants and Catholics alike were originally judged as such by popes and/or Ecumenical Councils presided over and ratified by popes.

147. Protestantism, in its desperation to eke out some type of historical continuity apart from the Catholic Church, sometimes attempts to claim a lineage from medieval sects such as the Waldenses, Cathari, and Albigensians (and sometimes earlier groups such as the Montanists or Donatists). However, this endeavor is doomed to failure when one studies closely what these sects believed. They either retain much Catholic teaching anathema to Protestants or hold heretical notions antithetical to Christianity altogether (Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox), or both, making this Protestant theory quite dubious at best.

148. Catholic has the most sophisticated and thoughtful Christian socio-economic and political philosophy, a mixture of "progressive" and "conservative" elements distinct from the common-place political rhetoric and Machiavellianism which typically dominate the political arena. Catholicism has the best view of church in relation to the state and culture as well.

149. Catholicism has the best Christian philosophy and worldview, worked out through centuries of reflection and experience. As in its theological reflection and development, the Catholic Church is ineffably wise and profound, to an extent truly amazing, and indicative of a sure divine stamp. I used to marvel, just before I converted, at how the Catholic Church could be so right about so many things. I was accustomed to thinking, as a good evangelical, that the truth was always a potpourri of ideas from many Protestant denominations and Catholicism and Orthodoxy (selected by me), and that none "had it all together." But, alas, the Catholic Church does, after all!

150. Last but by no means least, Catholicism has the most sublime spirituality and devotional spirit, manifested in a thousand different ways, from the monastic ideal, to the heroic celibacy of the clergy and religious, the Catholic hospitals, the sheer holiness of a Thomas a Kempis or a St. Ignatius and their great devotional books, countless saints - both canonized and as yet unknown and unsung, Mother Teresa, Pope John Paul II, Pope John XXIII, the early martyrs, St. Francis of Assisi, the events at Lourdes and Fatima, the dazzling intellect of John Henry Cardinal Newman, the wisdom and insight of Archbishop Fulton Sheen, St. John of the Cross, the sanctified wit of a Chesterton or a Muggeridge, elderly women doing the Stations of the Cross or the Rosary, Holy Hour, Benediction, kneeling - the list goes on and on. This devotional spirit is unmatched in its scope and deepness, despite many fine counterparts in Protestant and Orthodox spirituality.
 
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